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Die Linke: "Finally End White Dominance in Germany"

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Old Saturday, February 18th, 2017   #31
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Being fair and honest is not the equivalent of running with the brakes tightened, it's the equivalent of fair play.
The world isn't fair. It never was. The strong survive, the weak are enslaved and annihilated. That's jungle law 101 and the world is a jungle.


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What you are suggesting is more the equivalent of pushing other competitors so that you can win.
The name of the game is survival and avoiding being enslaved. At this very moment, we are losing heavily and we're in a race to the bottom. Is that the kind of future you want for yourself and your children? To be annihilated or enslaved?

At the absolute minimum, we should be in a position where we can defend our own territory and be left alone to live freely and without being attacked, harassed and enslaved. That is not the case today for us, so the choices remaining are to fight back and survive or to surrender and be left at the mercy of our enemies.

Our enemies do not harbour very sentimental thoughts about "fair play" with us, believe me.

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Which might work once or twice, but once everyone engages in the same tactic, there will be no more winners, just people destroying and killing each other before anyone can get to the finish line.
That's the way it has always been. It has never changed and it will never change. It's unfortunate, for sure, but that's the reality.

Choices are:

1. Defend yourself
2. Give up and be taken

I would rather defend myself and my community than subject myself to some unspeakable fate at the hands of our enemies.

There is no magic cure to turn the world into a nice, harmonious place where all people will be reasonable, fair and pleasant. Where people will not desire to cheat, steal and murder for pleasure and profit.

Therefore the only defense is to organise and to resist as a group.

Capitulation and putting the interests of adversaries before one's self-interests is for suicidal and sado-masochist people.
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Call me crazy, but I always thought the best way to beat a lie is to present the truth.

Sheep don't care. Whatever you say, in the end the reply you get will always be the same: "Baaaaeeeeeehhh".
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Call me crazy, but I always thought the best way to beat a lie is to present the truth. If we do indeed live in a world where we can only fight lies with lies, then I don't see much point in anything to be honest.
The average person is incapable of understanding much of anything. One person's truth is another person's lie. Who of them would know the difference, and who has the time to make sense of it all? Even if they tried most would fail.


The enemy lies all the time and employs never ending subversion against us. That's not a claim, that's a fact.

If you really think that you can counter such an enemy with fair and honest retorts and means, good luck to you. But I fear you will find that it will not be sufficient to prevail.

And if you don't prevail, what's true or less than true hardly matters any longer.

Survival at all costs trumps all else. Everything else is secondary.
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It seems to me there are two levels to this argument.
First it is a matter of principle. If you have truth on your side, why switch to spreading falsehoods? We stand for our ideas because we deem them to be right and true. By giving up on truthfulness, we loose the very reason why we are fighting. From a folkish perspective, honesty, truthfulness and, in general, the value of the spoken word have always been important for the Germanic ethos and the Germanic conception of honour.
The second level of the debate is about effectiveness. I can understand resorting to a lie in case of immediate defense (like the example Ward provided). But to put the lie in the centre of our strategy, this presumes that we could win such a contest. It seems to me that it's quite clear that we don't have the resources to beat the mainstream media on their own playing field. And, as Germanics, we're simply not as good at it as Jews for example. To try to win by lying (even disregarding the ethical principle) will result in failure. We should counter lies with truth, and if the lies prove to be too effective, we should take away their power instead of resorting to lying ourselves.
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