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Philosophy Investigate the nature of reality, knowledge, and values, and discuss the content of ideological ideas.

View Poll Results: Are you beautiful?
Yes 168 69.14%
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Old Saturday, February 7th, 2009   #1
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Are You Beautiful?

We say we are a race of proud and beautiful men and women, but what about ourselves? Are you beautiful? Are you a prime example of your race?

Voting is anonymous so you can be honest, and do be honest. Don't say yes just because your spouse say you're beautiful.
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Tijl de Treurige shows some promise.

You serve your race better by looking at the inside.
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I just asked. Apparently yes

More seriously though, 'beauty' can be subjective and it really involves more than mere aesthetics, which I'm guessing is what you're suggesting?
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We say we are a race of proud and beautiful men and women
Hm, are we saying that? I'd say there are beautiful individuals among us and if we can correlate beauty with the success of a people, then they do indeed deserve consideration. Other than that, everyone has the duty to contribute in the best way possible, within varying individual potential. The future development of a people should be geared towards increasing potential, though, and if this also means the proliferation of beauty, then that is fine too.

see also: What is beauty?
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I would personally say that I am both handsome and have been brought up properly. I would also say that I am intelligent and by and at large a good guy.

I would not have the audacity to call myself beautiful, however. Like honour, beauty is something that one has when others think so more so than when oneself thinks so. As such, I shall leave it to others to decide whether I am a beautiful person rather than to make such a bold claim myself.
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The racial soul is the primary source of our racial potential.
However, we correlate looks with inner characteristics, as they are both hereditary traits, and thus eventually a beauty ideal will emerge, in our case the Nordic ideal.
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I don´t know if I´m "beautiful" (and beauty is in the eye of the beholder in general) because I guess it´s absolutely natural that one always finds something to criticize at one's own figure... The same counts for me too, of course. On the other hand, I don´t think I´m ugly or "malformed". I can live with the classification of the "typical nice girl next door" very well.

Anyway, other people often call me "cute", "lovely" and sometimes "loopy". But is it the same as "beautiful"? The other point is that most of the people see the exterior of a person only. But the interior of a person is what should truely matter. Yet very less people get to know the inner complexion of a person.
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Well, I've been called ugly countless times and I've never even come close to having a girlfriend, so my guess is no.
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I would personally say that I am both handsome and have been brought up properly. I would also say that I am intelligent and by and at large a good guy.

I would not have the audacity to call myself beautiful, however. Like honour, beauty is something that one has when others think so more so than when oneself thinks so. As such, I shall leave it to others to decide whether I am a beautiful person rather than to make such a bold claim myself.

Um...what he said.

Seriously though, what you've written is perfect, I couldn't put it any better. To think of oneself as beautiful would be a little conceited - or at least lead you down that path. I also think that beauty does come from within. I have met people who I didn't find attractive straight away, but as I grew to know them they became beautiful - not just in an emotional way but physically if that makes any sense.
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Are you beautiful? Are you a prime example of your race?
This is the bit I have a problem with. What's a prime example of the Germanic race? A platinum blonde Halstatt Nordid? Is a platinum blonde Halstatt Nordid the only pinnacle of beauty in the Germanic race? Of course, many Germanics - particularly the Nordicists - would say so. Others would disagree. Perceptions of beauty rely on so many things, so, as Sigurd said, it's not anyone's place to proclaim themselves 'beautiful'.
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