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Old Thursday, August 10th, 2006   #1
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Germanic vs. Nordic?

Maybe I've been hopelessly confused my whole life, but I have always distinguished between Germanic and Nordic. They have always been two separate things in my view. I would consider Nordic to be either a subset of Germanic or possibly even an entirely different cultural/ethnic group. But it seems since I've come to this forum that a lot of people here use these terms interchangeably. Does everyone here consider Nordic and Germanic synonymous? For those who do, why?
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Re: Germanic vs. Nordic

I consider Nordic a part of Germanic. Those who live in scandinavia aren't really that different from those who live on the western continental.

Atleast I consider myself as a Nordic Dutch Man so I guess there is no difference. Just the place where we live.
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Re: Germanic vs. Nordic

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Maybe I've been hopelessly confused my whole life, but I have always distinguished between Germanic and Nordic. They have always been two separate things in my view. I would consider Nordic to be either a subset of Germanic or possibly even an entirely different cultural/ethnic group. But it seems since I've come to this forum that a lot of people here use these terms interchangeably. Does everyone here consider Nordic and Germanic synonymous? For those who do, why?

Well, I guess it depends on what category we are discussing....

Culture? Language? Anthropological races and subraces?


In my humble opinon, I would say that culturally speaking, the Nordic or Scandinavian is indeed a subset of the greater Germanic whole and the same holds true for linguistics: Danish, Faroese, Icelandic, Norwegian & Swedish are classified as belonging in the North Germanic branch of the greater Germanic branch of the Indo-European tree.

If we are speaking of racial anthropology than things are a little different. Nordic is a common term used for a specific human phenotype--that seems to have its highest concentration in the Scandinavian counties--but by no means is it confined to. I've never seen a human taxonomy that refers to a Germanic subrace--although there are certainly subtypes that are more common amongst peoples belonging to the Germanic branch of humanity (linguistically & culturally speaking). By my reckoning, Germanic is better off left as a cultural and linguistic designation and not a racial one. Nordic on the other hand can be used, or so it seems, to designate a subracial type, a broad cultural area and perhaps as synonymous with the North Germanic branch of the Indo-European language tree.....

I'm sure there will be those who wish to correct any errors I may have put forth.
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To say it short and simple. They are not the same. Germanic is a cultural (and linguistic) term whereas nordic is an anthropological term but the vast majority of the nordic people was Germanic whereas a lot of the Germanics weren't nordic. Nordics are together with dalofaelids, alpinids and other subraces a part of the Germanic whole.
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Germanic is a cultural (and linguistic) term whereas nordic is an anthropological term but the vast majority of the nordic people was Germanic whereas a lot of the Germanics weren't nordic.
That depends on what time period you are referring to. Before the Germanic tribes settled among and interbred with Alpinids and Mediterranids etc during the Migration Period, or Voelkerwanderung, the Germanic Peoples were essentially Nordid/Cromagnid(Dalo-Faelid and Bruenn for the most part), with Nordid being dominant. The further back you go in time, the more racially Nordid the Germanic peoples are.
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Since I believe that the ability to create culture is part of ones race, I can't but believe that Nordic and Germanic are closely related to each other.

However, both words have different meaning, as already explained, and of course not all germanics are nordics, and not all nordics are germanics, and should not be used interchangeably.
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Germanic vs. Nordic? Are you all crazy? Never mind! If we dont stand together - europe is dead!!!
Look at France, Spain, England, Sweden, Greece, Germany.....,

We are only a few millions of European people against billions of non-whites and they all want our EUROPE.
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Germanic vs. Nordic? Are you all crazy? Never mind! If we dont stand together - europe is dead!!!
Look at France, Spain, England, Sweden, Greece, Germany.....,

We are only a few millions of European people against billions of non-whites and they all want our EUROPE.

I don't think she was addressing some "VS." sort of thing--just looking for a little clarification on common terminology.
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To say it short and simple. They are not the same. Germanic is a cultural (and linguistic) term whereas nordic is an anthropological term but the vast majority of the nordic people was Germanic whereas a lot of the Germanics weren't nordic. Nordics are together with dalofaelids, alpinids and other subraces a part of the Germanic whole.
Okay, that's what I thought, too, but it really seems like a lot of people here only consider Nordics to be the "true" Germanics and the rest of us to be somehow substandard. However, as you say, Germanic is a cultural category encompassing several different subraces and it has for quite some time now. So it was just confusing me as to how some people were using the terms. For instance, in this thread, Nordicness seems to be used as a determiner of Germanicness; the underlying assumption seems to be that Norwegians are the standard of Germanicness by which all others should be measured. However, I would say rather that Norwegians are a standard not of Germanicness but of Nordicness, which we have already established is NOT the same thing. The thread, however, seems to be equating Nordic with Germanic, something that has not been true for nearly two millennia now, at least.
It seems that the attitude of trying to make "who's Germanic" as exclusive as possible is needlessly divisive and elitist when, as another member said, we should be focussing on unity and solidarity - we are all Northern European, and that's pretty much the ancient definition of "Germanic". Why mess with it?
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However, I would say rather that Norwegians are a standard not of Germanicness but of Nordicness
But the Norwegians are Germanic! Their language and culture is Germanic.
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