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Old Thursday, August 12th, 2010   #21
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Does everything have to be Jewish?
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Do not attempt to use multiple accounts on facebook as it will mix them and compromise your confidentiality, from 1 contact you can identify and track an entire social network without prior consent, try it.
If the idea is to remain "off the ZOG-dar", joining Facebook (even one account, even under a "pseudonym") is not the way to go. The system is rather well designed to connect the dots of your life and storing related info in a permanent, forever database to be made available to and sold to Governments & Corporations. (Same thing, in effect)

There is no hiding on it. Once you're on, once you're in some little social circle on there, your ID is effectively compromised.
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I can't think of more compromising naivety than exposing skadi to facebook or jewtube.
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If the idea is to remain "off the ZOG-dar", joining Facebook (even one account, even under a "pseudonym") is not the way to go. The system is rather well designed to connect the dots of your life and storing related info in a permanent, forever database to be made available to and sold to Governments & Corporations. (Same thing, in effect)

There is no hiding on it. Once you're on, once you're in some little social circle on there, your ID is effectively compromised.
You don't think they've already done this here? All "technology" we are allowed to see or hear about is light years behind what they have in secret. Would it really be too difficult for them to give people the impression that their IP's are non-traceable, when in fact they are? If they can trace telephone numbers what makes you think they cant trace IPs?
The people who post their photos here are especially at risk, and requesting that they be removed later on does not mean they haven't already been copied to add as additional evidence.
They must have enough sophisticated technology to where they can keep tabs on any member of Skadi, just in case one us actually comes close to effecting even the slightest bit of change. If anything is being done by our people behind the scenes to save our heritage then I imagine that Skadi members will be shunned like the plague, since contacting anyone of us would lead a trail right to them.
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I can't think of more compromising naivety than exposing skadi to facebook or jewtube.

You could at least give regime a hard time obtaining info on your persons.
Indeed. If the intention were to make it easier to collect information on members, their habits, beliefs etc then I'd be hard pressed to think of a better way than inviting Skadi members to a Facebook page. To me there are only two possibilities here:

1 - either those behind the idea are incredibly naive and irresponsible
2 - those behind the idea are quite deliberately encouraging people to expose themselves

Some people say "oh, I don't care they can find out anything about me anyway".

Well yes, that's true but you're making it so much easier for them by signing up. What's more, Uni's, colleges, employers, police, local councils etc etc etc are quite keen to research what you get up to in your spare time. They may not be impressed or amused if they were to find out that you're spending time on sites which are somewhat less PC than what is mandated under the current political climate.

It's a pity not many, if any of you, have toured the STASI's old re-education centers as I have in East Berlin. The data gathering and brainwashing operation they operated there was fascinating. Their system did suffer from certain problems though, for example, it required massive surveillance manpower to keep an eye on everybody. They needed a massive network of informers of people who spied on one another. With Facebook, it's all automated. Information is volunteered by the surveillance subjects themselves. The ultimate folly if you ask me.....

It's your lives guys.... but imo it's foolish to join.
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Indeed. If the intention were to make it easier to collect information on members, their habits, beliefs etc then I'd be hard pressed to think of a better way than inviting Skadi members to a Facebook page. To me there are only two possibilities here:

1 - either those behind the idea are incredibly naive and irresponsible
2 - those behind the idea are quite deliberately encouraging people to expose themselves

Some people say "oh, I don't care they can find out anything about me anyway".

Well yes, that's true but you're making it so much easier for them by signing up. What's more, Uni's, colleges, employers, police, local councils etc etc etc are quite keen to research what you get up to in your spare time. They may not be impressed or amused if they were to find out that you're spending time on sites which are somewhat less PC than what is mandated under the current political climate.

It's a pity not many, if any of you, have toured the STASI's old re-education centers as I have in East Berlin. The data gathering and brainwashing operation they operated there was fascinating. Their system did suffer from certain problems though, for example, it required massive surveillance manpower to keep an eye on everybody. They needed a massive network of informers of people who spied on one another. With Facebook, it's all automated. Information is volunteered by the surveillance subjects themselves. The ultimate folly if you ask me.....

It's your lives guys.... but imo it's foolish to join.
I can see your point to an extent, but here in the U.S they have all your information already, there is no point hiding who you are. I make it very clear in my posts and on my phone and in my conversations, that I do not agree with the government... period... I also make it perfectly clear that I completely disagree with fighting the government... I rather they know exactly who I am and where I stand. It is also handy that for some reason my address comes up on all maps as the farm down the road... might give me a few minutes to prepare if they ever come for me... lol

If they want to reeducate me they will have fun my corpse.... but not with me... You can't hide, all you can do is hold your head high and believe as you do... The one protection we do have is the ability to form groups, and the more ways we have to do that the better... In this country I am already screwed, I am an ex military vet and automatically considered a threat... It doesn't really matter who I know or talk too...
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With all due respect, these accusations are not only impertinent, but make very little sense altogether.

While I have neither initiated nor created Skadi's presence on social networks and popular broadcasting sites, and do not administer them either, they have been created and are maintained by long-term activists, some of them staff members, with impeccable reputation. To insinuate that they would be "naive" and "irresponsible" or are "deliberately encouraging people to expose themselves" is audacious and outrageous. Not to my surprise, you fail to provide any evidence to back up these allegations.

It is, as it should be self-evident for everyone, obviously not the purpose of these groups or their creators to get existing Skadi members to sign up with accounts which contain crucial personal information; the idea is rather to carry our message and mission to people who have never heard about Skadi before and to inform them about Skadi's existence. In other words, pretty much the opposite : to lead Facebook and MySpace members to Skadi and not the other way around. Ten thousands of visitors and quite a few members have found their way to the forum through these sites -- and continue to do so every day. People who would have never heard of Skadi otherwise.

Everyone can decide for himself whether he wishes to hold an account (or several of them) on these social networks in the first place. Everyone can decide autonomously which information -- true or invented -- he enters into these account(s) (and with whom he shares which pieces of information). And everyone can decide self-dependently whether he wants to join Skadi's groups or pages with a certain account or not.

Skadi's members are not exactly idiots. They are as much aware about the implications and security considerations, as you or others are, and these issues have been frequently discussed. Given that some people neither use anonymous proxies nor encrypt their Internet traffic when visiting Skadi or posting on it, maybe even more so.

What personal information will the government be able to collect about someone who regularly visits dissident sites and fora without encryption and anonymization? A lot. The dream of every profiler. What will be revealed to the gov't if someone joins the Skadi Forum group on Facebook with a pseudonymous account using VPN? Very little to nothing. It's not as much a matter of what you join or where you participate, but which precautions you are taking and what you reveal. And these are decisions everyone has to make himself.

And in the end, I also have a vision. If people would be more responsible, many of these peek-a-boos wouldn't even be necessary; at least not for most people. If people would stop to rely that they are pseudonymous and stop to harp on the 1st Amendment, but would only write what they wouldn't mind to utter under their real name and true identity on a national news broadcast, Skadi Forum and all other dissident sites would have a completely different quality. It would no longer be social and career suicide to belong to them or to visit them. I'm getting rather sick and tired about irresponsible incitement, insupportable generalizations and extremist rhetorics. "Níggers" here, "animals" there ... cui bono?

There is actually nothing in our world view that cannot be expressed in a polite, reasonable and responsible manner. We have the truth on our side, after all. And we are the good and responsible guys, remember? That the establishment doesn't dare to let our elite speak on its media is evidence enough. It's the tone which makes the music, but as long as we have to hide in a closet and behind pseudonyms, and this to a large extent because of our own negligence, chances are nil that our views will ever become the accepted mainstream again.
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