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The Death of Innocence: How the Crude Sexualisation of Pop Music, TV and Fashion is Destroying Childhood

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Old Sunday, April 24th, 2011   #11
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It is the parent who doesnt care about our true culture, so they bring up their children the same way.
My wife and me simply removed all MTV like channels, and the left wing programs, like we have a news show 'het jeugdjournaal' we just turn them off!

The other problem is school and other children in the neighbourhood.
they also bring those fashion like bollocks to our kids.
Which we totaly ignore!
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It's probably best not to have a TV receiver at all. If they want to watch something, DVDs can be bought selectively. Mainstream TV these days is mostly trash and propaganda anyway.

Of course another problem is that their peers are still subject to these influences and will pass them on. I guess that's where the parenting part comes in.
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The problems that are caused if the trends in toys and children's entertainment become degenerate are immense. Childhood after a certain point is based upon likeness and commonality in references and toys. If these references are degenerate and unsuitable yet most children adopt them, then how is a parent supposed to withhold them from their own child, lest that child become an outcast and bullied? Childhood is not a time for individuality. If there are alternative trends that are less degenerate yet appeal to a sufficiently large segment among children then these problems migth become more managable, but I am not familiar with the realm of childhood of today so I don't know if there exists an alternative to Bratz and the accompaning degeneracy.

I think girls are worse off than boys in this department, boys, unless their parents are on an ideological quest to socially engineer their children in accordance with cultural marxism, still have their toy soldiers, plastic guns, lego and maybe increasingly video games as the kids grow older. But as this article suggests the type of toys that are sold to and bought for girls might have seen a turn for the worse.
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lest that child become an outcast and bullied?
Yes this is a major problem. As you can teach your child to your liking at home however this can result in the child being outcasted and bullied by other children for being different. Also you cannot control what your child is watching, listening, etc. when it is away from home (schoolyard, friends house,...).
Society makes a great mark on any child's life and it is something that cannot be ignored or something you can't easily (if at all) run away from. So the target should be the society as a whole for if you only change your child it can only cause problems. I do block offensive and primitive things from inside of my house however some less offensive things that are popular among kids you just can't block because your child will suffer badly from such action.

Anyways, a friend of mine sent me a link to an interesting clip today that is related to the talk here:

The Ten Worst Songs of 2010
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The best thing to do is to not by bratz, or whatever else is out there... positive, young role-models are probably the best deal. There are many books you could buy your kid to inspire them to be smart instead of slutty/wiggerish.
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One of the problems is that corporations are now so focused on making money they don't give a damn who buys their products and can't be bothered spending money to try and stop kids from buying their products. Quite the opposite, they are now purposely making their products more racy and shallow to get kids to buy them!

I guess that's one of the joys of capitalism!

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. If these references are degenerate and unsuitable yet most children adopt them, then how is a parent supposed to withhold them from their own child, lest that child become an outcast and bullied? Childhood is not a time for individuality. I
I think girls are worse off than boys in this department, boys, unless their parents are on an ideological quest to socially engineer their children in accordance with cultural marxism, still have their toy soldiers, plastic guns, lego and maybe increasingly video games as the kids grow older. But as this article suggests the type of toys that are sold to and bought for girls might have seen a turn for the worse.
What a fantastic thread. I really agree with you on this in many different senses. Girls are getting bullied in school so much because of these false idols and bad role models. TV and media is destroying our society. It is giving women and men a bad self image. Women and men are not happy with their appearances- they are either too fat or too thin, etc. Also the "role models" that young women have are horrible influences. Young girls are dressing and acting like sluts. Girls are losing their virginities at 12, 13, 14 years old which is not right. The media also promotes multi culture and interracial relationships.
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Deliberate Corporate targeting of kids really took off in the early 1980's under Reagan in the US. I can't remember the exact details but legislation which inhibited the ability of advertisers to target kids was repealed and not soon thereafter the Corporations descended like a school of piranhas.

This eventually spilled over into other countries as well.

Today we (society) "accepts" this situation as being "normal" because we don't know any different and people just assume that this is the way it always was. However, this is not the case. It's a relatively (+- 3 decades or so) recent phenomenon but its effects have been catastrophic as any people-watching expedition to ones local shopping mall or high street will attest.
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Innocence?

This is nothing but a cold calculated marketing move to increase profits at the expense of a humanized culture. The increased use of gratuitous sex and violence in media is but a symptom. We see more violent death, rape and promiscuity etc. in a year than most soldiers ever see, or the police or any one encounters in a lifetime. So what's going on? Is Art imitating Life or does life imitate art? Meanwhile, the culture continues to decline and violence and the like continues to increase in proportion.

And remember, profit is more important than cultural values. All the business men and the creators of such, are laughing all the way to the bank...
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Number 2, "Katie Perry" guest stared on Sesame Street thid pass year:


^ Pretty harmless but why is a kids show promoting someone like Perry? Though I get the impression its viewership is mainly children-of-color so why care?

As for Fashion "Abercrombie & Fitch" gained a lot of notoriety for their catalogs which featured nude models in sexual situations to sell clothes. As A&F pointed out all of the models were over 18, but the catalog is geared towards 12-18 year olds. A&F would deny this but the pre-18 demographic is a very important part of A&F's clientele -they know who is buying their clothes & looking at the catalog.

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Padded Bikini Tops For Girls

Would you buy your pre-teen daughter a push-up bikini top? One major retailer hopes you will.

Abercrombie & Fitch, a popular store among teenagers, recently introduced the "push-up triangle," marketing the swim top to girls as young as 7 or 8.

But of the parents "GMA" spoke to, the reaction was unanimous -- no one would buy one for their child.

"I won't be buying them for my 8-year-old," one parent said.

"I thought it was a joke when I first heard about it. Then, I realized, it's so crazy, it must be true," Dr. Michael Bradley, a child psychologist, told "Good Morning America" on Saturday.

Bradley said the American Psychological Association has warned in the past that retailers were going after young girls.

They're targeting girls as young as age 4 to be sexualized creatures," Bradley said.

In response to the public outcry, Abercrombie renamed the top on its online store the "striped triangle." The padding remains, however, as does the outrage. Many viewers wrote in to the "GMA" shoutout board and Facebook page.

"Padded bathing suits for young school girls is vulgar," one person wrote. "Geez, we live in a scary society. I hope parents tell their children they are perfect the way they are!"

It's hardly the first time the racy company has strayed into controversial territory. A few years ago, Abercrombie offered thongs for the 10-year-old set with the words "wink, wink" stitched on the front. The company's advertisements have also raised concerns over the years for being too revealing.

And Abercrombie isn't alone. Earlier this year, Wal-Mart was criticized for its plans to introduce a line of make-up products directed at girls aged 8 to 12.



Abercrombie & Fitch Still Selling Padded Bikinis
Tweens spend roughly $24 million on beauty products each year.

Bradley said the consequences on young girls may be many.

"We're shaping their beliefs," he said. "We're actually teaching them that this is their primary value in this culture."

He also said it can shape their behavior, harms their body image and can add unnecessary anxiety.

The onus does lie with the parents, however, to keep their children out of the swimsuits, Bradley said. He advised to use the moment as a teaching moment if your child really wants the product. He said to avoid a shouting match by asking questions that spark a discussion.

"These guys really should be ashamed," said Bradley. "I hate to get this in their faces like that, but it's just wrong. It's hurting people."

Abercrombie has showed no signs they plan to pull the product from its store's shelves.

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